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Post by FinnFreak on Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:20 pm

"How many more kids have to die, before you guys say, 'we want less guns, not more.'"


http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/piers-morgan-on-the-newtown-ct-school-shooting-how-many-more-kids-have-to-die-before-you-guys-say-we-want-less-guns-not-more/?iref=allsearch


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Post by 70aar on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:06 am

There is absolutely no need for citizens to own assault rifles.

You would think that a tragedy like this would open peoples eyes to this but after reading a lot of comments from people on blogs and other places I don't see much in the way of change taking place.

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Post by Paul on Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:03 pm

Americans seem to think their rights to own guns are more important than kids dying, simple as that. Sure the killer was crazy and may have gone in with a knife instead...as a teacher I'd have more chance of stopping him than if I was up against a gun. Way less would have died. And the argument by the gun lobby is that if there were more guns, a teacher could have taken him out. Guns in classroom? Really????
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Post by FinnFreak on Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:44 am

This was interesting to watch...


CNN - PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT: Guns in America


Larry Pratt, Executive director of Gun Owners of America:

"Evil's in our hearts. Not in the guns"


On the heels of the tragic Newtown, Conn. school shooting which left 26 people dead, this evening "Piers Morgan Tonight" invited Larry Pratt to the program to share his strong perspective on the firearm debate.

"Since we have concealed carry laws in all of our country now, people can get a concealed firearm. And yet, we have laws that say not in schools," the Executive Director of Gun Owners of America said. "And so in the very places that have been sought out by monsters such as the murderer of these adults and children, we're saying, 'no, we don't want you to be able to defend yourself. It's better that you just sit there and wait to be killed.' And we find that morally incomprehensible."

Pratt says he's deeply disturbed by the anti-gun supporters.

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PRATT: Americans with firearms in their homes typically have them locked in a safe. As I do. And as most gun owners certainly do. The fact that this woman did not and knew that her son was unstable, reflected poorly on her judgment. And unhappily, she paid very dearly for her poor judgment. But that's not the reason that you should be able to come down on everybody else who's a law abiding gun owner who uses good sense and to say we've got to pay for that person's stupidity, for their shortcomings.

That's just not going to wash. We're not going to let it happen, Mr. Morgan.

MORGAN: I'm sure you're not going to try and let it happen. You see my argument is not about the American's right to defend themselves in their home with a firearm. That's not the argument that I'm trying to put out there. My argument is the same as the argument that Senator Feinstein said, that the president endorses. That I believe many, many Americans now believe, following this tragedy which is that there is absolutely no use and no justification for these AR-15 type assault weapons --

PRATT: Oh, the contrary.

MORGAN: Let me finish.

PRATT: How can you say such a thing?

MORGAN: Let me finish my sentence.

PRATT: The Korean merchants in Los Angeles use these kinds of firearms to protect their lives and businesses.

MORGAN: Let me finish my sentence.

PRATT: And for you to say there's no useful purpose for these guns, that's just completely wrong.

MORGAN: OK. Let me finish my sentence. There are these assault weapons, which have been used now in movie theaters, in shopping malls, in elementary schools to murder many, many Americans. And now 20 5-year-old children. And they are armed with magazines, 30 at a time here, a hundred in Aurora, in a movie theater.

And your only answer, Mr. Pratt, to people that want to get rid of both the magazines and these assault weapons, if I'm not mistaken, is to let everybody else have similar weapons? Is that the solution to America's gun murder problems?

PRATT: I would challenge you to go and tell the Korean merchants who survived the riots in Los Angeles, sorry, you had those firearms that saved your lives.

MORGAN: Can you answer my question?

PRATT: I'm answering your question. I wish you could understand it. Because you're talking against self-defense.

MORGAN: Would you like to see -- would you like to see -- would you like to see --

PRATT: You're talking against people being able to protect themselves.

MORGAN: Would you like to see teachers armed --

PRATT: And you don't want to hear it, that's why you keep interrupting me.

MORGAN: No, no, I don't mind hearing it. I think it's complete nonsense. But I mind hearing it. You would like to see --

PRATT: Well, the press tend to do that, don't they?

MORGAN: Stop being so facetious. I just want you to answer this one question. Post what happened at Sandy Hook, your answer to this problem of repeated use of this weapon with these high-capacity magazines is to continue letting Americans buy them with impunity, and to not concern yourself with these mass shootings, is that right?

PRATT: The Second Amendment means what it says, and meanwhile, you want to continue laws against self-defense. Laws that prohibit self-defense. Laws that prohibit teachers and other faculty, other members of the administration in schools from being able to defend themselves if they have a concealed carry permit. The laws prohibit them right now. We have been lobbying against those laws since they were put on. We will continue to do so, pointing out that that is where the problem is.

And for you to support them means that you're really blind to the role that that plays in enabling murders to operate within impunity.

MORGAN: Yes, I know -- I know why sales of these weapons have been soaring in the last few days. It's down to idiots like you.

Mr. Pratt, thank you for joining me.

When we come back --

PRATT: Thank you for your high-level argument, Mr. Morgan. It's really good.

MORGAN: You know what, you wouldn't understand the meaning of the phrase high-level argument. You are a dangerous man espousing dangerous nonsense. You shame your country.

PRATT: Disarmament is dangerous. (INAUDIBLE) into role model.

MORGAN: Yes. Sure. I know all about role models and you're not one of them.





Full transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/18/pmt.01.html



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Post by Paul on Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:32 am

Going on this logic all countries should have nuclear long range missiles then? If more will mean less problems?
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